Monday, January 24, 2011

Debate on Health Care...

Your health is important to your liberty, but when you decide that I must give up my liberty for your health, than your health becomes my tyranny. - Semolina Pilchard851

I don't know about you, but the liberty to suffer and die is a freedom I can live without :) - Shawn Wheeler

In the minds of the founders, liberty--w­ith all of its intrinsic risks--was more desirable than material prosperity or life itself, if that prosperity and life was accompanie­d with despotism or collectivi­sm.

So strong was their desire that they were willing to give up the latter in order to procure the former for themselves and their posterity.

The modern welfare liberal barely believe in liberty and would willingly trade it away for the promise of the possibilit­y of some healthcare in the distant future.

You would give away something that so many risked everything to give you.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringeme­nt of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783 - Semolina Pilchard851


Our founding fathers where many and varied, ascribing to many different philosophical views. To assign a single belief to all of them is sophist, at best.

Ideologues, love to invoke their name and quote them out of context. Ascribe entire belief systems to all of them as a whole as if they all had a single vision for this nation, and then dare anyone to repudiate the sanctity of the FOUNDING FATHERS wisdom.

In the end, if I did believe as you suggest that our founding fathers as a whole were against the common good/ common wealth. The only thing I would infer from that is that they lacked sufficient prescience to understand the complexiti­es of todays world.

To my knowledge there was only ONE thing they could all REALLY agree on. No taxation without representa­tion! Well you have representation. All you have to do is get enough other people to be heartless and you get back your "liberty". -Shawn Wheeler

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